Majority Urging to Dissolve DUN Perak

13th May Malaysiaparty 's pick of to-day
(picked from JP-[the 3rd PARTY] )

by { JP }

With an expected twist drama in Perak where Pakatan MB YAB Mohd Nizar and his executive councillors vacated their office seven hours after taking office; hugged in and depressed out again !!

To put aside our point of preference and prejudice, lets us review some of the fact points commented by our "drama" politicians and observers:

(1) UMNO - Dr. Mohd Khir Toyo said, (in his blog at http://www.drkhir.com/2009/05/dilema-perak-sidang-dun-tergempar-atau.html)
9. Tempoh pilihan raya yang berlaku tidak sampai separuh penggal menyebabkan Tuanku Sultan enggan membubarkan DUN. Apatah lagi jika diadakan pilihan raya lagi pun, apakah politik akan stabil atau terus berkocak jika keadaan masih sama dengan mana-mana parti mendapat lebihan dua atau tiga kerusi.
10. Dengan kata lain, Baginda mungkin melihat satu lagi pilihan raya baru belum tentu menjanjikan kestabilan politik di Perak jika keputusannya lebih kurang sahaja.

(short translated by JP as, YM Sultan refused to dissolve the DUN due to its an extremely short period just after the 3.08 election; Dissolution of DUN and snap election in state (Perak) will not guarantee a stability of politic if results (new) showing the same situation where there is only 2 or 3 seat in majority) ..

(2) MCA - Dr Chua Soi Lek said, (in his blog at http://drchua9.blogspot.com/2009/05/perak-political-drama-takes-turn.html)
BN can choose to appeal to the High Court ruling and this may then drag on effectively rendering the Pakatan state government ineffective.

Personally, I feel that a fresh state election will be the best way to resolve this stalemate. Let the rakyat decides and once for all, we resolve this problem, which is not doing anybody any good.

(3) PGRM - Dr. Hsu Dar Ren stated, (in his blog at http://hsudarren.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/press-statements-on-perak/)
1. As a Central Committee member of Parti Gerakan Rakyat Malaysia, I strongly urge the Barisan Nasional as well as the Pakatan leadership to come together for an understanding to jointly seek the permission of the ruler to dissolve the Perak State Assembly and seek a fresh State Election, which in my view is the only sensible solution to the problem.

2. Enough farce has been played and enough damage has been done to the nation. In the interest of the people of Perak in specific and Malaysia in general, it is no longer a matter of who is right and who is wrong. The decision of who should form the rightful government should no longer be decided in courts , but rather it should be decided by the people of Perak themselves, going by the very basic principle of democracy.

3. I humbly appeal to both sides to go back to democratic principles and let common sense prevail rather than trying to hold on to power and lose the support of the people.

(4) PAS - Haji Husam bin Haji Musa urged, (in his blog at http://cetusan-hati.blogspot.com/2009/05/peluang-sultan-perak-muncul-terhormat.html)
Keputusan apa pun oleh Mahkamah Tinggi memang boleh dirayu. Tetapi, jika bagi orang awam biasa sekalipun boleh mengerti bahawa pemecatan Nizar adalah tidak sah, dan itu telah pun diputuskan oleh Mahkamah Tinggi, Najib sepatutnya tidak lagi menggunakan saluran undang-undang untuk menyelesaikan krisis Perak yang beliau sendiri mulakan.

Keberanian menerima realiti dan keberanian menyelesaikan kemelut ini mengikut saluran politik adalah segala-galanya. Jika rayuan itu nanti masih memihak kepada Nizar, Najib dan UMNO akan menanggung malu yang lebih besar. Jika keputusan itu atas apa sebab pun memihak kepada BN, rasa euphoria rakyat atas bebasnya kehakiman negara ini kembali menjadi negatif.

Jika Najib berani bertindak bersama PR untuk memujuk Sultan Perak memperkenankan pembubaran DUN, BN mendapat dua markah. Markah atas bebasnya kehakiman di bawah pentadbiran Najib dan point yang kedua, kerana berani mencari jalan penyelesaian kepada krisis atas prinsip kembalikan kuasa penentuan kepada rakyat.
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Peluang institusi Diraja Perak keluar dari kemelut ini dengan tahap imej yang lebih tinggi adalah terbuka luas. Bubarkan saja DUN Perak dan biarkan rakyat memutuskan penghakiman mereka.
Bagi PAS dan PR, bukan bermakna pembubaran itu akan menguntungkan mereka. Rakyat Perak mungkin mengundi tidak seperti yang PR harapkan. Apa pun, pembubaran DUN tetap langkah terpuji yang membuktikan PAS dan PR adalah pemain demokrasi yang jujur dan pruden serta berani meletakkan rakyat di tempat teratas. Kuasa bukan segala-galanya tetapi prinsip-prinsip utama lebih didahulukan.
(translated in short, - by JP as BN have the rights to appeal the court rules but if the result goes in favour to them later, its sounded like the court might be bias. Worst still if the appeal rules that in favour to Mohd Nizar, again this should created more humiliating to BN !
the better way is to dissolve the DUN and if the YM Regent consent to dissolve it, then this should leave the Regent out of the politic-crash and earns them (the Regent) respects.)

(5) a well-known blogger - Uncle Bernard Khoo slammed the BN, (in his blog at http://zorro-zorro-unmasked.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-now-your-highness.html)
The BN chicanery had brought the Royal House into a compromised position.

People have vented their anger and are being charged for treason.

The people voiced it our clearly and loudly at Bukit Gantang.

The High Court was decisive.

and many more urging and urging ... #DISSOLVE the DUN Perak, please#
(except a small piece of big sum still stubborn with their points of view to hold)
cut lost .... cut lost ~

Nizar - the legitimate MB - VICTORY of DEMOCRACY **

11th May Malaysiaparty 's pick of to-day
(picked from perakdaily.com)
at http://perakdaily.com/?p=807

NIZAR MASIH MB
May 11, 2009

By Debra Chong

KUALA LUMPUR, May 11 — Pakatan Rakyat’s Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin is the real mentri besar of Perak , the Kuala Lumpur High Court decided today.

Judge Datuk Abdul Aziz Abdul Rahim said in his ruling: “The only way to force the MB to resign is through a vote of no confidence that must be taken in the state legislative assembly.”

The High Court also rejected an appeal from Barisan Nasional’s (BN) Datuk Zambry Abdul Kadir for a stay of the declaration.

Nizar is now on the way to Ipoh to seek an audience with the Perak Sultan to ask for consent to dissolve the state assembly.

An Open Minded Uprising Lim Si Pin listening to critics ..

11th May Malaysiaparty 's pick of to-day
(picked from Lim Si Pin 's blog)
at http://www.limsipin.com/?p=188


A View From The Outside
08 May 2009 General Si Pin

I (Lim Si Pin) ’ve been reminded by my Editor that this is an Open Forum and that, like it or not, sometimes readers may be interested in what others think of what I have writen on this website.

So in the spirit of ‘openness’ and ‘exchange’, I have included here back links of people whom have surf here and included comments on their own blogs.


The first is a writer by the name of Jeff Phoon, this was what he posted:
http://jp3rdparty.blogspot.com/2009/04/lim-si-pin-just-one-of-another.html


Another is a frequent commentor here, T.L. “Romerz” Saw, this was what he posted on his own blog:
http://romerz.blogspot.com/2009/04/gerakan-youth-chief-war-within.html

Thanks for your attention and comments guys, appreciate it!

Thanks also to my Editor - G.O.K.T. for pointing out what readers may be interested in, thanks.
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above was an articles written by Lim Si Pin in responsive to his readers (including me, JP) comments ( and critics ) onto his views and opinions recvently.

He had choosen to listen to critics rather than most of the politicians nowaday just closed both-ears-shut ! (Some even censored critics against them,..)

His open-minded character should earn him kwnoledges and courages in his future years of politic. I am highly appreciate for his kind of attitude in listening to critics and even dare to disclose out publicly about criticism he'd received.

Below is the original posting of Jeff Phoon in relating to Lim Si Pin 's :


Monday, April 27, 2009
Lim Si Pin, just one of another HYPOCRITE politician ..
by { JP }


Lim Si Pin, as one of the young leader who is having a good sign rising up as Malaysia politician leader, should earned himself bundle of supports from Malaysia younger age (voters, expecially Chinese) after he had been elected as the Gerakan (PGRM) 's Youth Chief in the past few months.

Need no to mention he is the son of the Gerakan's giant - Lim Keng Yaik, some of his opinions and ideas posted in his blogs grab echoes even from his rival party's supporters. We were pleased that Malaysia may soon raised up another giant fighter !

Surprisingly, his recent posting in his blog ruined his effort to convince people that he is one of another fresh hope for the nation and jeopardise his image ! In his recent posted article-blog [A Look Behind The Scenes] -, he written that he had having a social chat with one of his old classmate (who's PKR member) and this old friend told him that the how the DAP 's twos controlling their Menteri Besar (Mohd Nizar) and Speaker (Sivakumar). As we all knew, the Gerakan having deep feeling on DAP after they lost their Penang state and its no doubt that both party are trying (and fighting) their very best to gain people's votes in Perak. Battlefield in Perak and Penang state amongst each are obviously seen.

With a informats (the old class friend of LimSiPin) telling him the weaknesses of his rival party, Lim should be excited and extremely pleasant to gain more bullets for gunning down his rivals and REGAIN back votes from Perak's constituency. What I found strange here is that when this old class friend filled him with more explosive inner state's scandals about "certain names of Directors in some ‘Sdn Bhd’ that were linked to a few selected privilege persons whom are elected ADUNs." and "These are companies that were purely set up for the sake of handling land, quarries, official uniforms, etc etc that were profit making in concern." as prescribed in his blog, he then STOPPED his friend to lying to him !! - (I just didn’t believe my friend. I told him to shut up and stop talking nonsense.) ? ? ?

This is totally like a scene in an action movie I might had seen before, - the Demon shouted at his muscle-full bouncers "Stop beating him, he is dying! StOP!!" and in his heart damn wanting the victim to be cleared-off! When police arrived and questioned the demon, he stated that he had warned them to stop and not to kill the victim. So, he excaped ..
THIS is totally hypocritical !!

Its made us really disappointed that such a good image-covered arising politician is just another hypocrite, again !!

P/S: Sometimes we rather choose to believe that the article posted was NOT his own writing!
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Comments on the original posting at
http://jp3rdparty.blogspot.com/2009/04/lim-si-pin-just-one-of-another.html

The Younger Generations got your Lesson now ..

10th May Malaysiaparty 's pick of to-day
(picked from James Chin - at [themalaysianinsider])

at http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/opinion/jameschin/25923-how-could-it-come-to-this

How could it come to this?

MAY 9 — Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s, Malaysians had an attitude towards the Indonesians. We used to laugh at them because they were living under the authoritarian military Suharto regime. The military was a law unto itself and we Malaysians thought that we were so much better off than the Indonesians.

There was a lot of pride in being a Malaysian, not least after mega projects such as the Twin Towers. Malaysia was on its way to becoming a respected fully developed country. There was much confidence that we will reach 2020 without any real problems.

Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad had a strong grip on power and this allowed many things to be done quickly, often without the checks and balances. Nevertheless, people were willing to live with this as long as the country was moving forward.

Today, after the Perak fiasco, we really have to ask ourselves, if we are a nation in waiting or a failed nation. Any sensible person, inside and outside Malaysia, would come to the conclusion that Malaysians are willing to do anything to get power, even to the extent of destroying the constitution, the rule of law and parliamentary traditions. And for what?

You may have power but power without legitimacy is the same as having no real power. Do those in power really think that the people are so stupid that they cannot tell who is the legitimate government? Do they honesty think that what happened on Thursday will have no effect on the next general election?

The question I have to ask is this; how did it come to this? We have always taken pride in ourselves that we are more developed than our neighbours. We never had a military coup; we always held elections (free but not fair); we have a fairly solid judiciary and, by and large, legitimately elected governments since independence. Even the hiccup of 1969 lasted only about 18 months before the nation was back on track.

We have to ask ourselves — how can it be that asking people to protest in a non-violent way, such as wearing black or yellow, can lead to a massive police crackdown? These are the sort of things we expect to see in a banana republic, not a country that wants to be a fully developed nation in 11 years’ time.

We have to ask ourselves — how can it be that lawyers are arrested for trying to defend their clients? That lighting candles can be deemed a security threat? Are we that fragile that a sea of people wearing black and holding candles will lead to the disintegration of the country?

Surely, after 51 years, we have come to a stage where we can have a mature political discussion. Surely after 51 years, we must allow our citizens to protest in a non-violent way and use non-violent means.

It is time that we moved up the ladder in terms of our political development. We should not allow history to shackle us and hold us back. Just because a minority prefers Malaysia to remain a banana republic does not mean that all of us must behave like monkeys.

We must learn to agree to disagree. We must learn that a difference in political opinions does not lead to chaos and emergency rule. We must learn that dissent has a place in a modern democratic nation. We must learn that the rule of law is the best guarantee for the nation’s future.

And perhaps we should learn the most important lesson; what happens today will be reflected tomorrow. Do we want to leave what happened in Perak as the legacy for future generations?
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10th May Malaysiaparty 's pick of to-day
(picked from RPK - [Malaysia-Today] 's blog)
at http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/21551/84/

Was Siva merely collateral damage?
Posted by admin
Friday, 08 May 2009 04:43

THE CORRIDORS OF POWER

Raja Petra Kamarudin

After I (RPK) wrote my last article in No Holds Barred (It’s all about race, stupid!), I went to sleep -- after staying awake for almost 24 hours. I admit that my No Holds Barred article was very fiery, practically calling for blood. I make no apologies for that but I suppose sleep depravation does that to you; it makes you lash out. Nevertheless, I maintain my stand that what they did to Siva -- dragging him out of the State Assembly like a sack of potatoes and unceremoniously evicting him -- was downright uncivilised and utterly inexcusable.

After five hours of a good sleep, and with a clearer mind because of it, I have had time to reflect on what happened in Ipoh yesterday. As I said, I make no apologies for what I wrote earlier and have not changed my views. But what I have since been able to do is to analyse what the thinking of the Pakatan Rakyat leaders could have been and why they ‘abandoned’ Siva to his fate.

Could not Pakatan Rakyat have demonstrated a show of force and defend Siva to the last man standing? Are the Pakatan Rakyat leaders that gutless that they did not stand up for what is right? After all, they are constantly screaming that Siva’s eviction is unlawful and his physical removal unconstitutional. Why then not defend the law and the constitution by force if necessary?

Well, I am looking at things from the perspective of a political activist. Pakatan Rakyat could probably be looking at things from the political angle. Not being a politician I do not see things the political way but the political activist way. And this is maybe why I do not make a good politician. I just can’t see how sometimes in politics you have to allow the other side to show its true colours. In other words, you give your enemy enough rope for it to hang itself.

I have to go read Sun Tzu again and see what he said about strategy. And strategy involves many things. As Mao said, when the enemy chases, you run. When the enemy rests, you counter-attack. Mao must have read Sun Tzu as well and I am sure that was his ‘bible’ in the battle to win the hearts and minds of the Chinese people.

Something else Sun Tzu said was to not engage an enemy more powerful than you. And if it is unavoidable and you do have to engage, then make sure you engage it on your terms, not on your enemy’s terms. Choose your battlefield. Make sure it is a battlefield that you know. Never fight on a battlefield where your enemy will be stronger and better equipped than you.

The Taliban never read Sun Tzu -- or maybe they did, I don’t know. But they applied this strategy to the maximum and sent the powerful Russian military machine running back to Moscow with its tail between its legs. How to fight the Russian tanks, rockets and helicopter gun-ships when you are only armed with rifles? In an open battlefield the Russians would make mincemeat out of you.

Well, don’t engage the Russians in an open battlefield. The Russians would excel in an open battlefield. They are well equipped to fight in an open battlefield. So avoid the open battlefield and draw the Russians into the mountains. The Russian army is not trained to fight in the mountains plus their tanks would be useless in the mountains and the helicopter gun-ships would find the mountains most precarious.

So that is what the Taliban did. They knew the mountains like the back of their hands. They could move up and down those mountains blindfolded. And when the Russians came into those mountains the Taliban kicked the shit out of them. Eventually, the Russians called it a day and went home, but not after having to send home so many of their soldiers in body-bags.

So, what happened in Ipoh yesterday? There was hardly any resistance. PAS alone could have easily mobilised 50,000 supporters. Sure, there were roadblocks and thousands of police, hundreds in the State Assembly itself. But Pakatan Rakyat could have outdone this easily. Yet it did not. Why?

Anwar was not in Ipoh. Neither was Hadi Awang. Lim Kit Siang was but was not allowed in. And when they refused to allow him in he went off. There was no attempt to force their way into the State Assembly. No storming of the Bastille as had been hoped and as many had wished for. Why?

Was it complacency? Did they think Pakatan Rakyat would win the day without putting up a fight? Are they that naïve? Did they sell us out? Yes, those were the first questions running through my mind and lack of sleep allowed me to think only of the questions but the answers were not forthcoming.

I don’t believe it is any of the above. And I don’t think it is because of lack of caring or lack of interest as well. I think Pakatan Rakyat planned every move to the last detail and knew exactly what it was doing. And I think Barisan Nasional played right into Pakatan Rakyat’s hand.

But then I have a suspicious mind, as Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad is fond of saying. I am always looking for conspiracy theories. I am always thinking that there is more than meets the eye. I believe that politicians are good magicians. They distract you with their right hand while the trick is being performed with the left hand.

Is that what happened in Ipoh yesterday? Was that why it appeared like Pakatan rakyat offered only token resistance to make it look like they tried? Maybe, maybe not!

Let’s face it. Pakatan Rakyat had already lost the state. It lost the state when the Sultan sacked Nizar and replaced him with Zambry. Pakatan Rakyat now has lesser seats than Barisan Nasional in the State Assembly. What happened in Ipoh yesterday was merely to confirm what was already fact -- that Pakatan Rakyat is no longer the government in Perak.

Pakatan Rakyat could have resorted to force, bloodshed even. But would that have helped them get back the state? What it may have done is to give the police an excuse to detain everyone under the Internal Security Act and declare martial law in Perak like what they did in Kelantan more than 30 years ago -- and which I have written about before. That means democracy would be suspended and they can run Perak without the ‘burden’ of a State Assembly. Umno would be doing things without any opposition since there is no longer any State Assembly and therefore no longer any opposition in the State Assembly.

I believe Pakatan Rakyat knew it could not have won a military campaign in Ipoh yesterday. It has problems even winning the legal battles in court. The only way, therefore, is to allow Barisan Nasional to do what it did and which in turn would antagonise the people.

If blood had been spilled, the people might blame Pakatan Rakyat rather than Barisan Nasional for it. Sure, Barisan Nasional is violent. But then Pakatan Rakyat knows that Barisan Nasional is violent. Why then allow them to use violence whereby the people are exposed to risk and danger? Pakatan Rakyat should look after the people’s interest and guard their safety. Knowing that Barisan Nasional is violent and yet exposing the people to danger is downright irresponsible of Pakatan Rakyat.

This would be the reaction of the people if anything adverse happens to them. So Pakatan Rakyat very cleverly avoided violence and allowed Barisan Nasional to do what it did in Ipoh yesterday. And, today, more people have become disgusted with Barisan Nasional and will vote for Pakatan Rakyat in the next election, or by-election, just to demonstrate this disgust. They may not vote for Pakatan rakyat because they love Pakatan Rakyat. But they will certainly vote for Pakatan Rakyat because they now hate Barisan Nasional even more than before yesterday’s fiasco in Ipoh.

Was, therefore, Siva merely collateral damage? Were they expecting this and did Barisan Nasional do exactly as expected? After all, the state had been lost months ago. Winning the battle of the State Assembly, yesterday, would not have got the state back. Instead, it would have invited other problems, the people’s safety being one of them.

This is of course only my wishful thinking. I could be wrong, I don’t know. I would like to believe that what happened was part of Pakatan Rakyat’s plan and that it worked as planned. I hope and pray that Pakatan Rakyat laid a trap and that Barisan Nasional walked right into it and got snared.

As I said, I am not a politician. So I think differently from the way politicians do. But I do hope that what I am currently thinking is what they had also been thinking all along and that what happened in Ipoh may appear to have been a defeat but was actually a political victory that, in time, will reveal itself.

They say: he who has the last laugh has the best laugh. Was yesterday, in Ipoh, the last laugh? Or is the last laugh yet to be laughed? And who is going to have that last laugh? Politicians are so devious.

And am I being too idealistic here?